Quick Update

It's been a while. This blog was started as something to fill in time at my last job, in june I changed jobs, I'm much happier but have alot less free time.

What I've been Up to

- Space wolves are nearly finished, will be a 2K army when finally done

- I've rolled a bunch of stuff I haven't used in a while into 2 other armies

- I started a fantasy army Chaos Wariors

- I placed 2nd at MOAB this year as well, with highest battle points.

So, big 6 months. Here is a quick run down of the lists, will be doing a pictures over my Christmas break

start at the top

MOAB List that got me 2nd place

Space Wolves, 1250 Points

HQ

Rune Priest - Living Lightning, Merderous Huricane - Did well but will swap huicane from tempests wrath in the next tournament

ELITE

10 x Wolf Guard - 5 x CCW, Bolt Pistol

- 2 x Terminator, Assault Cannon, Power fist

- 2 x Combi-Melta, Power Fist

- 1 x Power Fist, Bolt Pistol

TROOPS

10 x Grey Hunters - 2 Plasma Guns

10 x Grey Hunters - 2 Plasma Guns

10 x Grey Hunters - 2 Plasma Guns

10 x Grey Hunters - 2 Melta Guns

10 x Grey Hunters - 2 Melta Guns

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Full 2K Wolf list

HQ
- Wolf Lord - Terminator, Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Saga of the Bear

- Rune Priest - Living Lightning, Merderous Hurricane

- Rune Priest - Living Lightning, Tempest wrath, Chooser of the slain

Elites

10 Wolf Scouts - Melta Gun

10 Wolf Guard -1 x Terminator, Cyclone Missiles, Storm Bolter, Power Fist

-1 x Terminator, Assault Cannon, Power Fist

-4 x Terminator, Storm Bolter, Power Fist

-1 x Terminator, Storm Bolter, Chain Fist

-3 x Combi Melta, Power Fist

TROOPS

10 x Grey Hunters - 2 Plasma Guns

10 x Grey Hunters - 2 Plasma Guns

10 x Grey Hunters - 2 Plasma Guns

10 x Grey Hunters - 2 Melta Guns

10 x Grey Hunters - 2 Melta Guns

HEAVY SUPPORT

6 Long Fangs - 5 Missile Launchers

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Project 2 Warriors of Chaos

Lv 4 Sorcerer of Death

Exalted Hero - Horse, Halbad, Shield, BSB, Mark of Khorne

Festus the Leach Lord

3 x 12 Chaos Worriors - 2 hand Weapons, Banner, Musician, Mark of Nurgle

2 x 24 Marauders - Banner, Musician, Mark of Nurgle

5 x Marauder Horsemen - Spears, Musician, Banner, Mark of Khorne

5 x Chaos Knights - Banner, Musician, Mark of Khorne

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Project 3 Crimson Fists - Fast, Ignores cover

Pedro Kantor

Librarian - Avenger, Gate

10 Stern Guard - Power fist, 3 x Combi Meltas, 2 Heavy Flamers, Drop Pod

10 Stern Guard - Power fist, 3 x Combi Meltas, 2 Heavy Flamers, Drop Pod

Dreadnought - Plasma Cannon, CCW, Heavy Flamer

10 x Tactical Marines - Melta gun, Multi Melta

10 x Tactical Marines - Melta gun, Multi Melta

5 x Scouts - Sgt w/Power Fist, Shotgun, 4 x Shotguns

Land Speeder Storm

Land Speeder - Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missiles

Land Speeder - Multi Melta, Typhoon Missiles

Thunder Fire Cannon - Drop Pod

Whirl Wind

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Project 4 - Imperial Fists

Lysander

Master of the Forge - Conversion Beemer

5 x Terminators - Thunder hammer and Storm Shiled

Land Raider - Multi Melta

Tactical Squad - Plasma Gun, Lascannon, Razor Back

Tactical Squad - Plasma Gun, Lascannon, Razor Back

Tactical Squad - Plasma Gun, Lascannon, Razor Back

Predator - Auto Cannon, Lascannon sponsons

Predator - Auto Cannon, Lascannon sponsons

10 Devestators - 2 x Missile Launchers, 2 x Plasma Cannons, Razor Back

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Let me know what you think

Space Wolves -LOT Army

Heres a few pics of what I've been up to lately. The latest LOT Army

HQ

Rune Priest -Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane

ELITES

5 x Wolf Scouts - Melta Gun

5 x Wolf Guard

- Power Fist, Bolt Pistol

- Power Fist, Bolt Gun

- 2 x Power Weapon, Bolt Gun

- Terminator, Storm Bolter, Power Fist, Cyclone

10 x Wolf Guard

- Terminator, Storm Bolter, Power Weapon

- Terminator, Storm Bolter, Power Fist

- Terminator, Storm Bolter, Chain Fist

- Terminator, Assault Cannon, Chain Fist

- Terminator, 2 x Wolf Claws

- Terminator, Heavy Flamer, Power Weapon

- 4 x Bolt Pistol, Chain Sword

TROOPS

10 x Grey Hunters - 2 x Plasma Guns

10 x Grey Hunters - 2 x Plasma Guns

5 x Grey Hunters - Flamer

Razor Back

5 x Grey Hunters - Melta Gun

Razor Back

5 x Grey Hunters -

Melta Gun

Razor Back

Heavy Support

Whirlwind

Predator - Auto Cannon, Las Cannon Sponsons

Predator - Auto Cannon, Las Cannon Sponsons

Now back to the pictures

Wolf guard shown above with their units

Quick Appoc List

Wow, 2 post, 1 day and picture coming this week.

Apocalypse Army - 3000 Points

Space Wolves

HQ

Wolf Lord Egil Iron Wolf - Terminator, Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Saga of the Bear - 215 Points

Rune Priest - Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane - 100 Points

Elites

10 x Wolf Guard - Config not yet determined

10 x Wolf Guard - Config not yet determined

5 x Wolf Guard - Config not yet determined

Troops

5 x Grey Hunters - Melta Gun - 80 Points

5 x Grey Hunters - Melta Gun - 80 Points

5 x Grey Hunters - Melta Gun - 80 Points

10 x Grey Hunters - 2 x Plasma Guns - 160 Points

10 x Grey Hunters - 2 x Plasma Guns - 160 Points

10 x Grey Hunters - 2 x Plasma Guns - 160 Points

10 x Grey Hunters - 2 x Plasma Guns - 160 Points

Transports

Razor Back - Twin Linked Las Cannon - 75 Points

Razor Back - Twin Linked Las Cannon - 75 Points

Razor Back - Twin Linked Heavy Bolter and Storm Bolter - 50 Points

Rhino - 35 Points

Heavy Support

Predator w/Auto Cannon, Las Cannon Sponsons - 120 Points

Predator w/Auto Cannon, Las Cannon Sponsons - 120 Points

Predator - Auto Cannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Storm bolter

Predator - Auto Cannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Storm bolter

Whirl Wind

Land Raider - 250 Points

Land Raider - 250 Points

Vindicator - 115 Points

Khorne CSM List

With my Hawk loard and SW army under control. Next up its Khorne

Heres the list so far

1750 Points, CSM

HQ

Kharne the Betrayer

Daemon Prince - Mark of Khorne, Wings

Troops

8 x Khorne Berzerkers - Champion, Power Fist

8 x Khorne Berzerkers - Champion, Power Fist

8 x Khorne Berzerkers - Champion, Power Fist

Rhino

5 x Chaos Space Marines - Champion, Icon of Chaos glory

8 x Blood Letters

Heavy Support

Land Raider - Daemonic Possession

Land Raider - Daemonic Possession

Daemons

Blood Thirster

New Project - Chapter Decided

Just a quick one today. I finally decided to throw a bunch of my models I wasn't using into an army so I would have something different to paint. Pics soon

This is a 2000 point Hawk Lords army details below. I have gone for a few cool looking options over what is best value for points etc.

HQ

Captain - Jump Pack, Relic Blade, Power Fist

Chaplain - Jump Pack

Elites

Dreadnought - Twin Linked Las Cannon, CCW, Storm Bolter

Dreadnought - Multi Melta, CCW, Heavy Flamer

Troops

10 Tactical Marines - Power Weapon, Plasma Gun, Heavy Bolter

10 Tactical Marines - Plasma Gun, Plasma Cannon

5 Scouts - Sgt w/ Power Weapon and Bolt Pistol, 3 x Snipers, 1 Heavy Bolter

5 Scouts - Sgt w/Power Fist and bolt pistol, 4 x Bolt Guns

Fast Attack

5 Vanguard - Sgt w/Relic Blade, 2 x Power fists

10 Assault Marines - Sgt w/Power fist, 2 x Plasma Pistols

6 Bikers - Power Fist, 2 x Melta Guns

Heavy Support

5 x Devastators - 4 x Missile Launchers

The aim is to sell off this army once its done. So far I have finished 5 Vanguard, the captain, 6 Bikers, 5 Scouts and a dreadnought. Hoping to take some time off work, get a 5 day weekend and use that time to finish it off.

So 2 Questions

- Would you ever buy a second hand, complete army?

- What would you expect to pay for a decently painted army like the one described?

League Result

Its a win.

The Opponent - a top notch guard payer

3 objectives, Pitched Battle

Win 2-1

The Good

My 3 11 man grey hunter squads proved amazing. As did the 2 razor back squads

The scouts did great, probably only need one squad

The Bad

Predators did little

At this point I'm keeping things as is.

Changes based on this

League List 1750 Points

SPACE WOLVES - 1750

HQ

- Rune Priest - Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane

ELITES

- 5 Wolf Scouts - Melta Gun - Wolf Guard W/Power Fist and Bolt Pistol

- 5 Wolf Scouts - Melta Gun - Wolf Guard W/Power Fist and Bolt Pistol

- 3 Wolf Guard - Bolt Pistols and Chain Swords (10 total, see squads for allocations)

- Rhino

TROOPS

- 10 Grey Hunters - 2 x Plasma Guns - Wolf Guard W/Terminator Armor, Chain Fist, Assault Cannon

- 10 Grey Hunters - 2 x Plasma Guns - Wolf Guard W/Terminator Armor, Power Fist, Storm Bolter, Cyclone Missile Launcher

- 10 Grey Hunters - 2 x Plasma Guns - Wolf Guard W/Terminator Armor, Power Weapon, Storm Bolter

- 5 Grey Hunters - Flamer - Wolf Guard W/Power Weapon and Bolt Pistol

-Razor Back

- 5 Grey Hunters - Melta Gun - Wolf Guard W/Power Weapon and Bolt Pistol

- Razor Back

HEAVY SUPPORT

- Predator - Autocannon, Las Cannon Sponsons

- Predator - Autocannon, Las Cannon Sponsons

- Predator - Autocannon, Las Cannon Sponsons

Little heavier on the troops and power weapons. Preds as dedicated anti tank. Should run well.

LGB Result

Well it was bad. Really bad. My idea of taking the smallest amount of models backfired remarkably.

So forgot my camera. Showed up hung over with a lack of sleep.

18 Players

9th for Battle

6th for Painting

18th for Composition

14th Over all.

Game 1.

Necrons - Win by phase out

Game 2.

Eldar - Win by 1 kill Point

Game 3

Blood Angels - Loss

Game 4

Blood Angels - Loss.

Overall result

Placed somewhere in the bottom half

Lowest composition score.

What Went Wrong

I learned alot.

- Dozer blades are worth it with this much armor

- Volume of Fire > Strength

- Razors with Twin Las lack synergy as you really want them going after troops

- Plasma is the new melta in the Australia Meta

- Tanks are no match for boots on the ground

- LD 9+ is a wonderfull thing

- Rune priests are good. not as brilliant as I thought.

Against the Crons I lacked the shot volumes I needed to deal with infantry

Against the Eldar I still could not wreck wave serpents

Against BA I couldn't kill infantry or tanks. One dread survived 4 twin linked las cannons and 3 auto cannons for multiple turns.

Taking this in to Consideration

New list for LoT

1750 Points, Space Wolves

HQ

Rune Priest - Bolt Pistol, Runic Weapon, Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane

Elites

5 Wolf Guard

- Terminator, Chain Fist, Storm Bolter

- Terminator, Chain Fist, Storm Bolter

- Terminator, Chain Fist, Storm Bolter

- Terminator, Chain Fist, Storm Bolter, Cyclone Missile Launcher

- Power Armor, Power Fist, Bolt Pistol

Dreadnought - Twin Linked Las Cannon, Twin Linked Auto Cannon

5 Wolf Scouts - Melta Gun

Troops

10 Grey Hunters - 2 x Plasma Guns

Razor Back - Twin Linked Heavy Bolter

10 Grey Hunters - 2 x Plasma Guns

Razor Back - Twin Linked Heavy Bolter

10 Grey Hunters - 2 x Plasma Guns

Razor Back - Twin Linked Heavy Bolter

10 Grey Hunters - 2 x Plasma Guns

Razor Back - Twin Linked Heavy Bolter

Heavy Support

Predator - Auto Cannon, Las Cannon Sponsons

Predator - Auto Cannon, Las Cannon Sponsons

Predator - Auto Cannon, Las Cannon Sponsons

League List 1750 Points

As seen in the last pic of my previous post.

Rune Priest - Hurricane, Lightning - 100 Points

10 Wolf Scouts - Melta Gun - 160 Points

10 Wolf Guard

- 4 x Chainsword and Bolt Pistol - Escort for Rune Priest

- 3 x Power Fist, Bolt Gun - Melta Gun Squads

- 1 x Power Fist, Bolt Pistol - Wolf Scouts

- 1 x Terminator Armor, Storm Bolter, Power Fist, Cyclone Missile Launcher - Plasma Squad

- 1 x Terminator Armor, Assault Cannon, Chain Fist - Plasma Squad

Rhino - 35 Points

5 x Grey Hunters - Melta Gun - 80 Points

Razor Back - Twin Linked Las Cannon - 75 Points

5 x Grey Hunters - Melta Gun - 80 Points

Razor Back - Twin Linked Las Cannon - 75 Points

5 x Grey Hunters - Melta Gun - 80 Points

Razor Back - Twin Linked Las Cannon - 75 Points

10 Grey Hunters - 2 Plasma Guns

10 Grey Hunters - 2 Plasma Guns

Predator - Twin Linked Las Cannon - 105 Points

Predator - Twin Linked Las Cannon - 105 Points

Whirl Wind

Seems to have plugged a few notice able holes in the list. Firstly being able to take out entrenched infantry. I also felt I didn't have enough boots on the ground and finally the ability to take out units that have separated from my opponents main force such as basilisks, heavy weapons teams, lone objective holders, devastators, etc.

Still not 100% on it but its getting there.

Project Update w/Pics

Here it is. My army for the upcoming Let Gosford Burn tournament. My First taking Space Wolves

My Heroic Commanders
Grey Hunters Red Squad

The Rune Priests Escort - Yellow Squad
Blue Squad

Grey Squad

White Squad
Tank Hunting transports

Dreadnoughts. Plasma Cannon, CCW, Heavy Flamer on the Left, Twin Linked auto Cannon, CCW, Heavy Flamer on the right.


DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA
Last 2 Transports
And finally my my list of this Thursdays league game. 1750 Points

League Result And extras

A Win. Vs Daemon Hunters.

Spear Head, 3 Objectives, Win 1-0

I will admit that I played slow and stupid. I attacked the wrong units and didn't play with enough aggression.

Oh Well, will keep trying.

Latest idea for plasma marines is Lords of Decay. Looking like a mass of plague marines and Havoks go horde, base them so I can mix and match with my existing Khorne army.

Let Gosford Burn is next weekend, I have 3 predators left to detail. I also want my Lords of Terra list ready for next Thursday so there goes my weekend.

I am also 1 box of nobs short of having a functional Ork Army. Will have to get that going.

Thinking of trying to get my warhound done for A potential apoc game in the near futureneeds some work. The legs need to be redone, the cockpit needs work.

Will try to get plenty of pictures up this weekend.

Thursday Night League List

First game trying out chaos

Choas Space Marines - 1750 Points

Kharne the Betrayer

Daemon Prince - Wings, Mark of Khorne

8 Khorne Berzerkers - Power Fist

8 Khorne Berzerkers - Power Fist

Rhino

8 Khorne Berzerkers - Power Fist

Rhino

8 Raptors - Icon of Khorne, Power Fist, 2 Melta Guns

8 Raptors - Icon of Khorne, Power Fist, 2 Melta Guns

Land Raider - Demonic Possession

LoT List- Ironing out the bugs

A couple of things have been bugging me about my LoT List. (see http://miscmarine.blogspot.com/2010/05/quick-lords-list.html)

1. Dreads don't do much. They're a little slow.

2. Rune Priest needs to be mobile and is better off with something expendably

3. Another termie in the second Plasma squad would improve them greatly

So Next list

Rune Prists - Lightning, hurricane

10 Wolf Guard

4 x Power fist, Bolt Gun

3 x Chain Sword, Bolt Pistol

1 x Power fist, Bolt Pistol

1 x Terminator Armor, Assault cannon, Chain Fist

1 x Terminator Armor, Storm Bolter, Chain Fist, Cyclone Missile

Rhino

4 x 5 Grey Hunters w/ Melta Guns

4 x Razor Backs - Twin linked Las Cannons

2 x 10 Grey Hunters - 2 x Plasma Guns

2 x Predators - Twin Linked Las Cannons

1 x Predator - Auto Cannon

Project Idea - looking for a Chapter

Here is my latest idea. Take my left overs, Make an army, Possibly sell as lot afterwards.

Trying to find a chapter. Suggestions would be good

Here's the Army List

Codex: Space Marines - 2000 Points

Captain - Relic Blade

Librarian - Avenger, Gate of intinity

Dreadnought - Multi melta, CCW, Heavy Flamer

Dreadnought - Multi melta, CCW, Heavy Flamer

Dreadnought - Plasma Cannon, CCW, Heavy Flamer

Tactical Squad - Power Fist, Plasma Gun, Plasma Cannon

Tactical Squad - Power Fist, Plasma Gun, Heavy Bolter

Tactical Squad - Power Fist, Melta Gun, Multi Melta

5 Scout - Power Fist

5 Scout - Power Fist

5 Scout - 4 x Snipers, 1 Heavy Bolter

5 Assault Marines - Power Fist

5 Assault Marines - Power Fist

Vindicator

5 Devastators - 4 Missile Launchers

Now the tricky bit. I already have Red Marines (Khorne), Green Marines(Nurgle), Blue Marines (Space Wolves), Black Marines (Chaos). So Those are out, I want this army to stand out from the rest. Imperial fists are also out due to a friend of mine already using them.

This is basically slapped together with what I have lying around so little inflexible in the list

So Give me a chapter name.

Quick up date

There has been a general lack of posting at the moment, Lots happening, Pictures soon.

My list for Let Gosford Burn is nearly done, My list for lords will be ready for play testing next Thursday. That only leaves expanding the list for Apoc which will involve 20 Wolf Guard and a Land Raider.

My Khorne army is now a Khorne Nurgle army (Kharne, Prince, 24 Zerkers, 21 Plauge Marines, 3 Bikers, 3 Rhinos, Greater daemon)

This leaves me with 6 bikers, 20 ish assault marines, 50ish black reach marines, 20ish other marines, 3 Dreadnoughts, 5 Blood letters, 20ish Scouts, 3 Characters and a land raider I'm not really doing anything with. Might try and sell them at MOAB, finance my Orks. I could do a Crimson Fist sniper Army. Some will no doubt get drafted into my apoc army.

Project Update - Bit of everything

PROJECT SPACE WOLVES

1500 Points of Space Wolves for May 30

as seen in this post = http://miscmarine.blogspot.com/2010/05/lgb-final-list-whatever-i-can-paint-in.html

DONE

- Rune Priest

- Wolf Guard

- Dreads

Nearly Done

- Tanks. Just need to be dressed up

- Grey hunters need alot of work

1750 Points for High Lords of Terra - July 24

- Need to swap weapons on the tanks and Dreads

- Wolf Guard Assembled

- Grey hunters nearly Assembled

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PROJECT CHAOS SPACE MARINES

Daemon Prince - Paint Started

16 Raptors - Did one test model and hated it.

24 Khorne Berzerkers, kharne the Betrayer, land Raider - Assembled

2 Rhinos - 1 needs to be stripped, the other assembled

Blood Thirster, 10 blood letters - Unassembled

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PROJECT ORKS: BLAZING SKULL CLAN

Got 30 Boys, 2 trucks, 1 wagon, 14 Kommandos, 6 Bikes, Wierd Boy, Pain Boy

Need Nobs and Boys, Maybe more trucks

NEW PROJECT: Angles of Vigilence

Codex Space Marines

2000 Points

Heavy on the plasma weapons

Desert scheme

quick Lords List

will be posting more soon, then probably less again. explain later

Space Wolves for Lords of Terra - 1750 Points

Rune Priest- Lightning, Huricane
- 4 x Wolf Guard with Power Fist, 1 in termie armor with cyclone and chain fist
- Las missile dread, Hydra Dread
- 3 x 5 grey hunters w/ Melta guns in Razors
- 2 x 10 Grey Hunters with 2 Plasma Guns each
- 1 x 8 grey hunters w/ flamer in rhino
3 Preds with twin linked las cannons

LGB - FINAL LIST - Whatever I can paint in time

Yes thats what its boiled down to. 1 month to go and 3 weekends now written off with family commitments.

Space Wolves - 1500 Points

HQ

Rune Priest - Runic Weapon, Bolt Pistol, Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane - 100 Points

ELITES

Dreadnought - Twin Linked Auto Cannon, CCW, Heavy Flamer - 125 Points

Dreadnought - Plasma Cannon, CCW, Heavy Flamer - 125 Points

3 x Wolf Guard - All with Power Fist and Bolt Gun - 114 Points

Razor Back - Twin Linked Lascannon - 75 Points

TROOPS

5 Grey Hunters - Flamer - 75 Points

Rhino - 35 Points

5 Grey Hunters - Melta Gun - 80 Points

Razor Back - Twin Linked Heavy Bolter - 40 Points

5 Grey Hunters - Melta Gun - 80 Points

Razor Back - Twin Linked Lascannon - 75 Points

5 Grey Hunters - Melta Gun - 80 Points

Razor Back - Twin Linked Lascannon - 75 Points

5 Grey Hunters - Melta Gun - 80 Points

Razor Back - Twin Linked Lascannon - 75 Points

HEAVY SUPPORT
Predator - Auto Cannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons - 85 Points

Predator - Auto Cannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons - 85 Points

Predator - Auto Cannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons - 85 Points

Saturday Quick list - 1500 Points, Space Wolves

Latest idea for LGB

Rune Priest

5 x Wolf Guard w/ Power fist, Boltgun

2 x Dreadnought w/Twin Linked Las Cannon and Twin Linked Auto Cannon

4 x 5 Grey Hunters w/Melta Gun and Razor Back (Heavy Bolters)

1 x 5 Grey Hunters w/Melta Gun and Rhino

2 x Predator w/ Twin Linked Las Cannon

1 x Vindicator

League Round 4

So I got two games in this week. both against guard, rolled DOW, 3 objectives both times.

I went with

Rune Priest - Chooser of the Slain, Hurricane, Lightning

4 x Wolf Guard w/Power Fist and Bolt Gun

1 x 9 Grey Hunters, Melta Gun, Rhino

4 x 5 Grey Hunters, Melta Gun, Razor Back w/twin linked Lascannon

2 x Predator w/Auto Cannon, Heavy bolter, Storm Bolter

First Game I lost, But it was nullified due to my opponent misreading a rule.

Won my second game 2 objectives to 1.

What I learnt

Las Cannon Razor backs rock. Melta guns were a little unnecessary. This list struggles with High toughness, multiple would MC's and Heavy infantry.

So 250 Points to take this to 1500.

Working through this list

Preist was fine

The wolf guard did thier jobs

Melta guns on the grey hunters didn't do much because they tended to stay in thier transports. But I should keep them as tank shock protection

Preds worked well.

Razor backs were amazing

I could drop the upgrades on the preds, I end up with 218 Potential points to do something with.

Have to think about this.

PROJECT UPDATE W/PICTURES all WIP

Space Wolf Army for Let Gosford Burn

The Infantry

The Armor

Completed Rune Priest

Completed Wolf Guard

Completed Wolf Guard

Predator Up Close WIP

Orky Beginnings

Chaotic Beginnings

Daemon Prince WiP

Project Update - Space Wolves

May 30. That is my first Deadline. I need a 1500 Point force for Let Gosford Burn.

I have 2 days tops this long weekend, a few hours during the week and maybe 3 more weekends tops.

List with Progress

Rune Priest - Table ready. Could use one or two touch ups, maybe more base detail

4 Wolf Guard - 1 Assembled but needs touch ups, 2 need weapon changes and arms re-painted, 1 still on sprue.

34 Grey Hunters - 30 assembled in various states, approx 15 table ready but could use more work

5 Razor Backs - Assembled and Under coated

Rhino - Table ready, needs more work

Predators - partially assembled.

Lots to do. Pics this weekend.

Learning to Love the Gun Line

As most marine players know the strength of a Space Marine army lies in its marines. there are a couple of reasons for this

1. BS 4

2. 3+ Save

3. Ld 9

4. Str4, Ap5, Rapid Fire, bolt guns.

This means that marines can dish out highly accurate fire while surviving enemy fire. This has lead me to embrace attrition warfare.

Attrition Warfare is all about Inflicting more damage on your opponent than you receive. The aim is to cripple the enemy force in first 3 turns of the game so that when you advance on turns 4 and 5 the enemy will be overwhelmed.

In order to achieve this there are 3 things to consider

1. Volume of fire - this is about forcing saves. get enough shots in there air and eventually anything dies.

Units - Razor Backs, Predators, Marines, Grey Hunters

2. Range - making sure you can hit the other guy turn 1. If you can rapid fire something, it can assault you next turn. Keep them at a distance, troops in combat can't shoot and everything falls to pieces.

Units - Thunder Fire Cannon, Whirlwind and Stern Guard. Predators and razor backs are also a good source of cheap auto cannons and Las Cannons

Note on Scout Snipers: Yes they have range. however a little math hammer. 10 Shots, 5 Hits, 2.5 Wounds, 1 cover save passed. The lack the power and accuracy to be good in this role.

3. Power - You want to stop transports ASAP. Keep the enemy infantry from assaulting you. You MUST be able to pop Rhinos, Wave Serpents, Battle Wagons and Land Raiders. No easy task Las Cannons fill a niche here able to pop a land raider from the other side of the table.

Units - Razor Backs, Devestators, Stern Guard, Long Fangs, Predators

Now quick comparison between C:SM and C:SW

HQ - SW have rune priest with Living Lightning, SM have a Chapter Master with a 1 shot obital bombardment

Elites - SM have Stern Guard who have Kraken Rounds that fire 30 inches and have access to cheap heavy weapons. SW can pull wolf guard shenanigans and get 2 cyclone missile launchers for 270 points then assign 6 of the power armored members of the squad to Grey Hunter units.

Troops - SM have heavy weapons and combat squads, Grey hunters are cheaper

Fast attack - Too Similar

Heavy Support - Long fangs can engage multiple tagets and pack more weapons, Devestators have bullet catchers which makes them more survivable. SM also has access to the Thunder Fire which is great except in DoW missions.

Taking this in to account I've made some changes to my LGB list

Space Wolves 1500 Points

Rune Priest

5 x Wolf Guard - all with Power Fist, Bolt Gun

5 Grey Hunters - Melta gun

Razor Back - Twin Linked Las Cannon

5 Grey Hunters - Melta gun

Razor Back - Twin Linked Las Cannon

5 Grey Hunters - Melta gun

Razor Back - Twin Linked Las Cannon

5 Grey Hunters - Melta gun

Razor Back - Twin Linked Las Cannon

5 Grey Hunters - Melta gun

Razor Back - Twin Linked Heavy Bolter, Storm Bolter

9 Grey Hunters - Melta gun

Rhino

Predator - Auto Cannon, Heavy Bolters, Storm Bolter

Predator - Auto Cannon, Heavy Bolters, Storm Bolter

Predator - Auto Cannon, Heavy Bolters, Storm Bolter